BUM Book
 

My curiosity got the better of me - Glenn didn't let the cat out of the bag until I bought. I have to figure where the bum went and test it out as it seems pretty easy and straightforward. As Bozo noted, one does have to live in a populated area of a certain demographic.

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

I had no idea this would ignite such a heated conversation. I am glad it did. I am willing to pay a "curiosity fee" to see how this works, but not the amount wanted. As always, I gladly pay from profits already made. what is the secret?

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

I'm a firm believer in "paying it forward", but not so much as to take money out of a guy's pocket. Sorry, you'll have to do like I did and purchase at the given price.

Re: BUM Book
 

Wow, Glenn's book now boils down to a "certain demographic". This is making it less appealing. I live in Reno, NV and we definitely are being inundated with a certain demographic. I wonder if that CD negates the technique? Of course if you like being robbed at gun point by this CD, any technique is alright.

Hmmm...

Tom

Never worried about my image when chatteling Skip.
 

apparently both you and Glenn were somewhat "skittish" about doing what a Bum does.

Don't know, don't care.

I've never been ashamed about chatteling. NEVER concerned about my image in the community, in fact, proud of it.

Even though you hauled down 80 bux an hour, it is apparently beneath you to do BUT you can't wait to sell it to other people.

I'm sorry, I don't get this at all. Maybe I have to spring for the report, but, no, that ain't gonna happen.

What happened to making a living the old fashioned way, with honest work, and when did selling stuff that you wouldn't do yourself, because you'd be ashamed to be seen doing it...when did the money become so important...oh, there is a money back guarantee, IF, the buyer actually provides some proof he at least went and acted like a bum...

NO THANKS Skip/Glenn.

Gordon

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Charlie,

Apparently there is a person on this thing called the Internet who doesn't believe in paying it forward. I did a google search on the term:

Street BUM $200 an Hour Secret

and found this site:

http://www.blackhatteam.com/f108/req...ret-79635.html

The author of the post apparently likes Glenn's work but is looking for information and/or the exact plot. In other words he or she wants to know what it is all about.

I then typed in:

How A Street BUM Bought A House for CASH & Makes 400.00 to 600.00 Seven Days a Week

and found:

http://xtrememind.com/2500Monthly.pdf

http://video.forbes.com/fvn/byb/forg...barter-instead

Neither of these 2 links refer to Glenn's book. However, the pdf tells you all about Bum Marketing Travis Sego style and how to make 2500 a month. The second link is a forbes link that speaks about bartering. A guy could use this idea if he is into helping local businesses increase their business.

By the way none of the above links are affiliate links. Yes, I did use Glenn's title and subtitle off his sales page to do my search. It didn't make sense to use any other "keywords" so to speak.

There you have it. All the information that could have revealed the hidden secret. Personally, I like the idea of sitting on your ass holding a sign that says:

Will Work For Food

and look each passerby in the eye and force them to donate. That's magic. But, again, I'm not equipped to do that.

Hope this helps.

Tom

Re: Never worried about my image when chatteling Skip.
 

Gordon, Thank you for your opinion.

This IS honest work.

I choose other work over this work as a full time job.

Another person might choose this work.

Are they right or am I. Both are right.

Opinions come in all sizes.

The image of a Bum come in all sizes.

You have yours and I have mine.

Best of success,

Skip Rosell

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Yea, the Bum Marketing in that reference has absolutely nothing in common with Glenn's book; it's just a gimmicky name for article marketing.

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Gimmicky certainly covers the offering. Have to admit though, Travis did latch onto a cute saying that made him a small fortune :D

Tom

Skip, are you saying this BUM thing can be a full time JOB????
 

Well, I'm going to keep giving my opinions then...

I just quoted YOU Skip, I don't care one way or the other, but when
someone says they were concerned about their IMAGE in the community and that whatever you do at the gas station may have some people think of you a certain way...

Yet, less than a day goes by and I get your affiliate offer.
So, it seems, you won't do this honest albeit "shameful" work, yet you can't wait to send this to your list solely because you think it will make you a ton of money.
That's about as far from HONEST as it gets. Skip, tell you what, send me another email which clearly states you tried it, made money but were concerned about your image OR tell the potential buyer there is an element of the BUM technique which could make you look, in the eyes of your friends, family, customers (your community) like a real BUM, whatever and however you describe them.

In the first post, you say it's a business, and that carries with it certain inferrances, like TAXES and such, then it is a job.

In the last year of getting your newsletters I've not read of too many things that gives you this return on your time, so, it just begs the question in my mind, Why won't Skip do this simple easy 80 and hour money maker as opposed to one of his 30 dollar an hour money maker he writes about.

Do whaever job or business you Skip, no concern of mine, but if there is something shameful or shady or truly BUMmy about this, then that's a different story.

I'm just disappointed in you Skip, selliing something you are too embarassed to do yourself even though it could put a lot of buxs in your pocket.

Just an opinion, no need to respond, I get it, we have different takes on what is shady and what isn't.

Gordon Alexander

Re: Never worried about my image when chatteling Skip.
 

Skip,

Pardon the interruption but I think you'd agree the more that is written about this so called BUM method the more it looks like it is shady. Especially with people saying they wouldn't touch it.

Opinions don't really feed the bulldog so assessment based on opinion is as spurious as Jerry Sandusky claiming he is innocent. I haven't read the tome so I don't know what to make of the method.

However, I have read all the posts. I formed an opinion and decided not to purchase the book. Granted that opinion is based on opinions and some fact but I thought it enough so as not to proceed.

Maybe a word or two from Glenn would add some clarity to the discussion, if the discussion so warrants, and all of the opinion can be shuffled off to the dust bin.

Just my 2¢...

The Simple REASON WHY You Should NOT Buy The BUM BOOK
 

Hi,

Wow.

I check back and My "How to Write & Sell A Book in 24 Hours"
THREAD has gotten Off "The Point" of the Exercise.

THE POINT: Dien asked me to demonstrate how I write and Sell a book
Literally overnight - or in 48 hrs. (The Testing takes longer.)

My Write & Sell SECRET?

The Simple Reason Why,
You Should Not Buy?

Only People Who VOTE and tell me Which book they want are "BUYING
Prospects." (This is how I s ell books so fast - to Book idea Voters Only!)

So.

PLEASE DO NOT Purchase My BUM BOOK.

YOU are
Not
Part of my
Quick Sell Test. (I know this cuz only 2 or 3 SowPubbers Voted)

You are not My Book Buying Prospects.

You will HATE the book and want a Refund. (I don't want to go thru it.)

-----------------------
THAT SAID...

There is an EZ way for you to Know - IN ADVANCE - whether You will
ENJOY the "Bum Book" munny making strategy or not.

Pass my Test,
Be My Guest,
I Do Not Jest,

IF U Qualify,
You'll Make Munny,
Fast as a Bunny,
Both Gal or Guy,
You'll Learn to Fly.

Why Have dozens of my VIP Ezine Subscribers Bought the BUM BOOK?

ZERO Refunds.

A - They voted Their Opinion

B - I Created the book they wanted

C - All of them Are VIP's Who passed my Test at www.NLPBrainBuzz.com
and emailed me their results.

I hope this Clarifies matters somewhat.

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn

P.S. - Why do I Personally Test Everything I sell? Because I offer a 365 day
100% munny back Guarantee on Everything at my archive AND
Everything is based on Give to Get - Golden Rule Foundations.

INCLUDING THE BUM BOOK.

So with 61 - 1-of-a- products - I'd lose my shirt If everything didn't work... (IF You Take Action.)

Glenn, once you launch an affiliate progrzm, people, like ME
 

who did NOT vote and was UNinterested have rec'd email from one of your affiliates.

Don't know or care how many affiliates you have, be they be VIP or not, but once something hits my email box it is outside of your testing, or is it?

So what you say about this being offered ONLY for those who responded to your testing, isn't quite accurate.

Is it?

Gordon

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

In the P.S. section of Glenn's post he, in part, wrote:

"Everything is based on Give to Get - Golden Rule Foundations."

I guess I got lost because my understanding of how this particular brand of advertising works is:

The, in this case, author of the book gives us a chance to vote on a title. When we do, he gets the opportunity to sell us the book. This gives him two gets. One, the opp to sell and two, the opp to make some quick cash all based on the give to get principle. All the voter really was "given" was an opportunity to spend money as it seems to shake out.

I completely understand the principle and know how it works. This is the ole subliminal technique. Make it look like they are getting something in return for their, again in this case, vote.

Where I got lost was the rebuke of those who didn't vote (I did vote btw cuz I liked the BUM title). I realize the rebuke can be part of the give and get because it may tinge the conscience of someone who thinks they should have voted. Out of what we would commonly call guilt they buy. Two objectives served. One, a sale and two an assuaged conscience.

But, to thicken the plot, I too was offered an opportunity to buy the book through an affiliate. I can't remember seeing any notice of an affiliate program being available. Unless of course this is part of a jv program and not really an affiliate program and not open to the general voting public at large.

The post didn't mention anything about this affiliate attachment. None of this is meant in anyway to impugn the book. It stands on its own. It is the marketing thereof I wish to better understand.

If anyone can remove the mist around the marketing, I would be greatly appreciative.

Other than that, I'm all for marketing anyway a person can honestly present their product. After all, we are marketers on this forum, right?

Tom

Gordon-I've Never Done big Affiliate JV's Before
 

Thanks Gordon,

You know more about this than me.

I've not done any large affiliate JV's before - with one of my products. (I've endorsed others to my list.)

So.

I'm a newbie at this. I don't have a clue who got what.

A - I wrote and tested the headline

B - Wrote and tested a sales letter

C - Several people made munny and wanted to mail their lists.

So I p aid my webmaster to set up affiliate PHP links
so I can tell who sent which buyers.

Huh.

Hadn't thought about sow pub and Affiliate links over-lap.

Glenn

P.S. - I tell everyone who e-mails or calls me - "Don't b uy if the cost of a
pair of shoes or dinner and a movie busts your budget."

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Now I am really confused. Glenn posted:

I don't have a clue who got what.

A - I wrote and tested the headline

B - Wrote and tested a sales letter

C - Several people made munny and wanted to mail their lists.

So I p aid my webmaster to set up affiliate PHP links
so I can tell who sent which buyers.

If you pay your webmaster to set up affiliate PHP links so you could tell who sent which buyers, how can you not know who got what? The links tell you who sent and who received. That's part of the program.

One more time, this has nothing to do with the book. It stands on its own. This has to do w/the marketing.

BTW, the insulting P.S. was unnecessary. Really no need to add it given only one person mentioned the price. Price isn't the only determinant in the buying matrix, right?

Maybe the giver is getting and the only recourse is to follow the politician retort route. If true, that would be sad.

Tom

Dear Tom - I Can't Open Your Private Message
 

Hey Tom,

You think U are confused.

You must be using fancy affiliate software. I've patched my system together.

All I see in Paypal Windows is the name, address of the b uyer.

And the Affiliate who sent them.

All total strangers to me.

How am I to know if they use sow pub or not. I know not.

Glenn

If you pay your webmaster to set up affiliate PHP links so you could tell who sent which buyers, how can you not know who got what? The links tell you who sent and who received. That's part of the program.

Re: Dear Tom - I Can't Open Your Private Message
 

The private message in the post or my reply to your PM telling me you jved the book? Either one my answer is the same. Your thread certainly generated a lot of squawk on an otherwise calm forum :D

Tom

Re: Skip, are you saying this BUM thing can be a full time JOB????
 

This has nothing to do with the Bum's job but his appearence. I would not go in looking like I wore the same clothes for a year and havent bathed in the same amount of time.

Nothing shameful or embarassing about the work. You read into my statement something I never thought about when I wrote it. I was talking about appearence not the work.

If you read the book it talks about how easy it is for the Bum to get this "work" because of his "Reason" for doing it. That is where I changed the method. I came up with reasons that you could use even if you were dressed in a suit and tie.








I never said this is a business but the BUM does this as a business. Which I think for some people even an extra $50 or $100 a day would consider this a business.

I also will try this from time to time because it worked but I have other offline businesses that I will focus on more then this. And it is fun to get suprizes in the process of the "Work"

As far as me making a killing on this as an affiliate I will not make more then one or two sales, if that, to my list because of the price. Most of my list expect reports $5-$10 range from me.

And last but not least. I Do NOT like being called Dishonest!

I test all the reports that I write and give 100% refund at any time not just 30 or 60 days. I do not test all of the affiliate products and I do not believe anyone else does that either. If I said it once I said it one hundred times in my emails that this may not be your "cup of Tea" I do not expect everything is right for everyone. And if it is not for them they can get a refund at any time.

I tested this affiliate product because I did not believe it when I read it and wanted to disprove it. That back-fired when I did the test. It Worked to my amazement.

I had to respond to this post because of the dishonest remark. I take that very personally. I always respected your opinion and thought highly of you. I thought you thought the same of me since we have know each other for years on the forum and through working together on projects.

I hope the misreading by you or more likely the miswriting by me for this product did not change your mind.


Best of success,

Skip Rosell

Skips 1st Two Tests of The BUM BOOK Came Out Good
 

Thank You Skip,

As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "Do the thing and you have the Power."

Thanks.

Glenn

Skip tried The BUM Book Idea twice - so far. Here's part of an email
he sent me.

P.S. - By the way - I can't answer any of your tech questions. I don't DO
that stuff. I hire others. PHP stands for Please Hip Hop - right?

==================

Dear Glenn,

...Results:

First day I made $67 for one hour.

Second day at a differnt location by my home I made $156.00
for about 90 minutes.

THAT'S $89 an hour.

Both places were within bike riding distance from home.

Skip

I unsubsribed
 

Response to this thread:

Getting an email offer on something he doesn't endorse?????

I don't normally respond to threads that can cause controversy. The top part is my asking a question about an email I got about a warrior forum offer. I asked this question because I thought the methods sounded good and fine, but just needed to get clarification. Quite frankly, at this stage in my life, I know crap from gold. I had been on Skip's list for a good six years or so. His reply to my question, which is the second paragraph, made me unsubscribe. Perhaps that isn't quite fair, but, in the past Skip always tested methods before endorsing. This last email basically told me that he was now throwing crap against a wall and seeing what sticks.

I'm done with offers on email. Done with it all. Not saying that Skip is a bad guy or anything. I still believe his heart is in a good place, but is now throwing STUFF out there and just letting it fly.

Everything being said...thanks to this forum and other marketers, I have now stopped chasing the GOLD. I have concentrated on ONE method to get an income from local businesses that HELPS THEM make more income through multiple marketing channels

Again, I don't mean to post a response to a thread that is somewhat negative, and I still think Skip is a fine person, but sometimes we lose our perspective. I unsubscribed to a list I thought highly of until I got that response. Then again, I'm not a newbie anymore. I know filet from bacon. Gordon's reply to this thread made a lot sense.

Don't care about Bum marketing or anything else you want to call it. Marketing is just helping business or yourself make more money in a cost effective way, with the bottom line being more attentive to your customers.

What do you mean by "blind ads"...?
 

Hi Gordon,

I'm not sure what you mean by "blind ads"...

Do you mean ads for information products which don't "give away" the information in the ad? I think any "instructional" product can't give away everything in the ad - otherwise there's nothing to sell...

That holds for not only "money-making" products, but any kind of instructional product (e.g. topics like: how to beat writer's block, how to draw using the right side of your brain, how to win friends and influence people, etc.)...

Maybe that's not what you mean...

Best wishes,

Dien

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

I've been "under the weather" the past few days - that's why I haven't posted in a little while - but I feel much better now...

I think the "give" was Glenn explaining how he (1) develops which topic to write a product about (this is the part where he asks people to choose from different titles), and (2) how to write it quickly (i.e. using an "outlining" method, e.g. he writes the chapter titles first, which serves as an outline).

It might have gotten "lost in the shuffle" over all these latest posts, but I think the lessons were there... I think they're good lessons, too (in my opinion)...

Yes, he sells some, too. But he also gave away free instructional information we could all learn something from, with no obligation...

Best wishes,

Dien

Re: I unsubsribed
 

I can't read Skip's mind, but I'm going to guess that he probably meant more something like, he doesn't make public endorsements of products...

If that's what he means, it wouldn't mean he doesn't (personally) endorse them...

From what I know of Skip, I don't think he would promote a product he didn't believe in, and in this case, he personally tested it to check for himself.

Best wishes,

Dien

Re: What do you mean by "blind ads"...?
 

Dien,

This is how the business dictionary defines a blind ad:


An advertisement with limited contact information that fails to include the name of the party placing the ad. For example, a business may place a help-wanted advertisement that includes only job requirements and a box number for mailing applications.

I am not saying this is Gordon's definition, I am saying this is how the business dictionary defines it.

Tom

My NEW Report, HOW TO WRITE A BLIND AD THAT SUCKS MONEY OUT OF WALLETS LIKE A DYSON
 

VACUUM CLEANER SUCKS UP DIRT...

Will answer your question and give instructional detail on how to write them.

Can't decide if it should be a 7 dollar WSO or a 69 buck front end to a new group which may form from it on writing blind ads.

Since I failed at a 24 hour book, give me 72 hours, now that I know the formula and I may have my "pick the title" part of it ready by Tuesday, and then I'll go from there.

Dean DuVall wrote some great blind ads, his bestseller (if I recall right) was the headline

$100,000.00 in 90 DAYS

You sent your 10 bux in and had no idea what you were buying.

It made and still makes people fortunes...and for either a measly 7 bux or a price of 69 (obviously the tested price point to resolve curiousity buys)...

but since I will have a NO FREKIN REFUNDS policy, probably will go for the lower price, unless I decide on an affiliate program, then it will have to be worth my "affiliates" TIME.

AIMING for a Wed. release...stay tuned.

HOW TO WRITE A BLIND AD THAT CAN PUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO YOUR WALLET IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS...

Will have at least 5 titles to vote on very soon. Got to come up with a good bribe. Workin on it.

Gordon

PS. I'm quite serious, already have the blind ad template, have several examples and I'll go over the copy...from headline, pre headline, sub heads (aka Deck Copy)...

Salutation
to
Johnson Box

Bullet Points
Story elements
Social Proof (perhaps)
How to arouse desire, by appealing to human curiosity
Call to action
Disclaimer
Qualifiers

etc. etc.

Surely worth your 7 (or 69) bux??????

PPS. Hey Gordon, since you don't buy from blind ads, isn't selling a report on how to write them just a little, uh, disingenuous???

Yea, sure, but so what...I'm after the monies, so bug off.

Re: I unsubsribed----- Thanks Rick I see the error of my ways
 

Hi Rick,

Thank you for showing me something that I am doing wrong lately.

I have had some health problems lately (not an excuse) and have doctors appointments most days. Just getting older and heart and blood pressure issues that they are trying to control.

But that has limited my time and I have not been taking the time to convey the whole story in every email.

The part about not endorsing products in the email to you and others is in reference to just one website that I put up and the products on that website.

I will not give the link to that site here because I do not want to add to the confusion I have already caused. The site is a free blog that I set up for my own use with WSO (warrior special offers). The warrior forum lately have hundreds of WSO's each month now on all type of subjects like SEO, Backlinking, Article writing, etc. I wanted to list on this free blog just the WSO's that interested me and on fast cash or easy systems to make some extra cash. Then as I got time I would buy these products to test out and then write a report or case study on my results. This was at the beginning just for my own use.

Then I got a bright idea. (bad, bad, idea now I see)

My bright idea was if I was interested in these WSO's then my list would be interested in these and I would save them time looking through all the hundred of WSO's to find them. Then I got another bright idea.

Why not put the link to each of these products as my affiliate link and make a buck or two off of any that were sold.

But I wanted to be honest with my list and I told them in the first post that I have not bought some of these products and therefore I could not endorse them. Then I made another mistake. I got so many emails with questions on some of these listings that I started to "short" answer these emails to keep up with them.

Instead of taken each question from my list and answer fully I just got it in my mind that the list member KNEW I didn't buy some of these products and gave short answers without explaining to each one.

I lost track of my core reason for writing to my list. To help them make some quick cash with a good product. As you said I have always in the past tested all the reports myself before I sent any thing out.

I put in disclaimers because I wanted to be honest. I said I don't endorse products that I have not tested because I wanted to be honest. But by not explaining this in full in each email I did all of the people that are my customers and friends an injustice. Sorry.

From now on I will not send an offer out UNLESS I have tested it whether it is my own report idea or a case study on an affiliate product.

I also started to "Short" answer in my posts here on sowpub.

When I said I would not be doing the Bum method myself I just thought everyone one knew I was talking about the bums’ appearance and not the actual work of doing the program. But I quickly put that disclaimer in because I wanted to be honest. I did not put an affiliate link in my signature or in the post for the book because I just knew the people here on SowPub were NOT the target market.

I am sorry that I hurt my friends just to save some time and not do them the justice they deserve from me. Enough excuses!

Time to get back to treating my friends like I have for the last 8 years and give them only the knowledge I have acquire by TESTing each and every product.

Let me start and apologize to Rick, Gordon, Dien, Tom, Glenn, and all the others that have posted or read these posts. I promise to do better.

Best of success,

Skip Rosell

Skip, let me speak only for myself.
 

First, I GET the health things. Health issues eat away at your time, and, in my case, certainly, my judgment as I too have made mistakes.

I regard you as a friend, and a friend of SowPub.

I too, didn't get the WSO blog thing, and wrongly wrote it off as Skip being desperate for some fast bux...now that I see what you INTENDED to do, it makes more sense and is, in my opinion, a good idea.

The way the WSO is being done these days, it is hard to separate the wheat (2%) from the BS chaff 98% so your idea has merit because you are taking time to pull out what you consider to be an idea worthy of follow up.

I also regard Glenn as a friend and a great contributor to the SOW pub forum, and I regard him as a master manipulator (nothing negative there) whom I for one, can certainly learn from.

My issue is with blind ads and I guess, I misread and/or MISinterpreted your reasons for not doing the Bum thing, so, my apologies for that.

Still, I think dragging your 12 year old daughter to a late night gas station to scrounge around for a few bux seems to be, and I may be totally wrong on this, and need to pull my head out of my ****...

seems to be "beneath" the members of SowPub, whom, over the years have shown a higher understanding of making money, that is, are NOT the vast majority like you find at other forums, desperate people looking how to make an easy buck...

We've presented hundreds of workable, doable and realistic ideas here over the last 12 years and I may have WRONGLY assumed that SowPubbers wouldn't have much interest in what a bum on the street does...

And maybe, I was wrong...

Maybe the members here DO want that kind of information, and if they are willing to pay 69 bux to get it...then who am I to say it isn't or is anything they would be interested in...

So, rather than fight the flow, why not go with it, because surely I can create tons of this kind of information (not knowing what IT, thr Bum thing is), but I can write blind ads, albeit, I don't buy from them.

Give the people what they want.

So, I will.

Skip, I have respect for you, liked your ideas, gave you a glowing testimonial which I stand by for your report on your version of having first choice of profitable chattel products, it is a great report and one which I know you used and made money from.

So, if you agree, let's just square up, no hard feelings, I admit I was wrong now that I have the REST OF THE STORY...and I'll try to do better here at sowpub and deliver the kind of information that people want and readily PAY FOR, fair enough?

Gordon Jay Alexander

PS I've deleted my "clarification" post, now that things have been clarified for me here.


Also, I've recently stumbled across, almost literally, an unknown way, at least in my 50 years of looking for ways to make money...a way in which a person can make an easy 300 dollars a day, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year...all on auto pilot without having to speak to a single person. Hope to be able to share it soon, after my testing is done, OK?

Some blind ads...
 

Hi Gordon,

Ah... now I get what you mean!

The danger is - you fear that what you'll get will be "crap"... That's because you don't quite know precisely what you're getting...

But - if there's a money-back guarantee - that should probably help overcome the fear...

I gotta say... there is one "blind ad" I can think of which I'm actually a big fan of... That's this one (and the series of similar ads)...

Bud Weckesser was a copywriting genius... I just love the picture of Mrs. Weckesser in the ads... What is she doing????!!! :)



And here's another famous one (though I don't like it as much as Bud Weckesser's)... "The Lazy Man's Way To Riches"

http://www.theryanmcgrath.com/Joe_Karbo_Ad1.jpg

(From here...)

And here's the Dean Du Vall ad you mentioned (link to the large sized ad is at the bottom), thanks to Lawrence Bernstein...

http://www.infomarketingblog.com/whe...yboy-magazine/

- Dien

YOU and Dan Kennedy...who told Pete this was his favorite GTP ad
 

Funniest thing I read at GTP was a letter from a woman who believed that Mary was strangling an owl...

HA!

This ad, along with several versions of What is this Woman/Man doing sold millions of dollars of books.

As a matter of fact, it was one of Bud's best efforts.

Compare this ad to those in Money Making Opportunities or Entrepreneur, the ones which don't tell you what they are with...

the ones that do, like PACE Products, whose ads have run for decades, or SMC, the ads which tell you what you will be doing...like Lil Orbit donuts or badge a minit...

YOU get what you have to do to make the money...

Back in the day, MOST of these Biz-Ops were blind, and people like the M.O.R.E. people, made fortunes from their less than stellar reports they mailed out.
They, were in the print days, the equivalent (in my opinion) of the Syndicate today in IM.

Anyhow, now you know what I was referring to, but, I'll have much more in my report...and thanks for reminding me of GTP, don't see any good reason why I can't cash in on my time spent there, eh?

If you remember, I was working on a complete library of ads, and accessed all the information, when and where the ads were placed, their costs, how they pulled, the tests that Bud ran on each ad...that surely has some value to a few people...as does the year I spent going through the Ben Suarez/SCI ads in his Seed World room, results of 25 years of testing and the results.

Probably will make that a back end to the BLIND AD report, ya think?

Gordon

PS. Same ad from DuVall, although, if memory serves, the headline

$100,000.00 in 90 Days

was the control and out pulled this ad and Dean D. too, was an avid TESTER of headlines.

PPS. The Karbo is one of the top 10 ads ever written, IMO, and one thing, perhaps irony, is that when I was talking to Joe, he had not yet hooked up with Harvey Brody to have his list managed, in fact, I believe he later confessed he was tossing out the names...good thing Joe attended the Harvey Brody seminar, he, like Jay Abraham, Ben Suarez, Gary Halbert, Joe Sugarman, et al, learned a thing or two from Harvey, wouldn't you say?

Re: Skip, let me speak only for myself.
 

Short answer: All's square and no hard feelings

Long answer.

To show my remorse to my friends I am going to show you how to take a post that was listed here on SowPub and make some quick money with it. For free!

The free part is the report AND the cost to set up a quick cash system. I read a post by Jason Hatchett about A-frame signs.

http://www.sowpub.com/forum/showthre...t=a+frame+sign

There is no out of pocket expense to do this test to see if it will work in your area. Most programs may work in one area and not another area. This thread is getting quite long and this is off topic so I am going to post the "rest of the story" in a new thread.

Watch for my A-Frame post coming soon! Even if you are all thumbs and don't know a screw driver from a saw check out my post on A-frame signs, ok?

Best of success,

Skip Rosell

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Gordon,

How about:

So Easy Even A Blind Man Can Do It...

Ooops, were we asked to vote? Can't remember...Hope Ray Charles doesn't see this...Or Ronnie Milsap...

Tom

How to make 500 bux a day, cold, hard cash playing pinball.
 

So easy, even a deaf, dumb and blind boy could do it.

May have to update to today's ONLINE gaming, however.

Only problem, today's gamer, at 12, is for the most part, illiterate.

I'd really have to write a blind ad for this one. HA!

Re: How to make 500 bux a day, cold, hard cash playing pinball.
 

Used to play pinball for beers at the NCO club in days of old. Felt like a deaf dumb blind boy at the time :D

Tom

*SmartGuy* Post on BlackHat Forum
 

Hi,

My webmaster just found this Post on a Shadow or BlackHat Forum.

So.

The BUM BOOK is getting "Popular."

Glenn

Link:

http://www.blackhatteam.com/f108/req...ret-79635.html

Re: *SmartGuy* Post on BlackHat Forum
 

Glenn,

Your webmaster must have read my post on Jul 28th:


http://www.sowpub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31496


Good for him, shows he's on the ball :)

Tom

Re: *SmartGuy* Post on BlackHat Forum
 

The Headlight Manual also made it onto that forum, same poster. They were discussing a group buy, but there's no way to know how far things get shared. I got at least one sale from the link they posted, so I'm good with that. Thanks to Statcounter for keeping track of that kind of thing.

Re: *SmartGuy* Post on BlackHat Forum
 

whew....just happened to stop by for some 'light' reading and see the old Family is still at it...love, hate,fuss, make up ...good Catholic/Jewish environment...love it...
dont have any idea what this thread is about now ...will share with yall what I do when approached by the 'bums' in my area...

I keep a ten pack of the cheap ball point pens in my car...several as matter of fact...and give a ten pack to the guys who approach me...tell em to make a little sign ( as I did one day )...stand by the road ...and make money.
none of them do it...
I did ...for about 3 hours one day
dressed on the side of the road by a traffic signal...blue jeans, work shirt, dirty hat, and sweat...paint on the jeans ..working guy apparel..
cup from the Krystal with pens in it,
sign that said..scribbled..." Pens for sale..$1 each or 3 for $5"
people threw 5 dollar bills at me...told me to keep the pens...
made 200 bux ...and left...learned a lot about people..
most are generous and giving, just get tired of being "begged" for money .
so I quit working, recruited 100,878 'bums'...made $2,987,687...in 4 months...and sold out to the Scientology folks for 1 million cash,and moved to Alaska..

selling the pens is a true account tho ...enjoyed visiting with yall again ..!

Re: YOUR OPINION - Which Book Will U Pay Cold Cash For?
 

Bob,

Is your real name Don Alm? :D

Tom

Beautiful One Legged Beggar Driving a Mercedes
 

Thanks Bob!

A Thank You Reward for the Tested Pen Idea...

-----------------------------------
(Idea for Your Roofing Business. This Tactic Grew an Aluminum Siding
company owners business (By "Ooodles") Mark never revealed How Much.

(I Tested it THRU the Phone Live. So I heard it working. You drive into
an affluent group of houses. Look for gutters full of leaves. Maybe a few
weeds growing. Go to the door and offer to CLEAN OUT their Rain Gutters
for FREE.

(This gives you (A) Gutter repair work (B) A good Peek at their roof,
chimney, Aluminum siding and windows. All of the Above need work 80% of
the time. Especially if they are too busy to clean their gutters.)
--------------------------------------------
So.

On to the one-legged woman Beggar story.

I spotted this gal - on the median strip btwn two traffic lights. Four lane traffic.

Crutches and one leg. Short Skirt. White Blouse. No sign.

It was late.

So I pulled into a Gas Station and watched.

Sure enough she shut down operations for the day. Very quickly Crutched
her way across the 4 lanes. Into a gas station. And around back.

TaDa!

She was driving a Brand New Black Mercedes.

Sounds like something out of a Sherlock Holmes novel. Where a man
disappears from his job. Holmes finds him on the street - with a FAKE SCAR.

Making Double What he made in his former job.

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn