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Old December 16, 2024, 12:33 AM
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Default This book could make you rich.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/173514164X...estFormat=true

Not a cheap paperback.

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Old December 17, 2024, 05:13 AM
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Default Thanks for the "heads up"...

Hi Gordon,

I hadn't heard of Chase Hughes before... But he's put out a lot of stuff...

Some of it looks quite complex... He's put out a "behavioral table of elements" (you can Google that term to find it)... It looks pretty complex, and I don't really understand it yet!

Thanks for the "heads up!"

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Old December 17, 2024, 01:35 PM
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Hi Gordon,
I hadn't heard of Chase Hughes before... But he's put out a lot of stuff...

Some of it looks quite complex... He's put out a "behavioral table of elements" (you can Google that term to find it)... It looks pretty complex, and I don't really understand it yet
Thanks for the "heads up!"

Best wishes,

Dien

Dien, he is the modern Edward Bernays. My current interest is institutional psyops, especially gov't/ big biz...but some useful context for small biz too...

In old mailorder (remote direct marketing), we looked for buyers of things, frequent and recent buyers were the golden gooses that led to many a fortune...

This is basic behavior, as seen on the Behavioral Table of Elements...was useful then, today it is all about DATA collectors, and now we can go so much deeper into the predicting of behavior, and buying and selling is nothing compared to what covert influence is being conducted. We are not far away from a tipping point to total compliance, about half a generation away.

Because the internet is set up to capture so much personal data, and advanced AI can spit out results in real time...the old mail order lists of buyers seems archaic by today's standards.

Take the drones over NJ, but what is a LEO? Law Enforcement Officer? Well by definition the FBI is, but not the CIA, but Homeland Security gets murky. The drones are collecting data, at rapid speeds casting a wide net over large areas that special police sniffer units can't cover. The black boxes on top of telephone poles are rebroadcasting wifi, bluettooth and cell signals, which are being run through data bases sniffing out (they claim) are the bad guys...like drug dealers, human trafficers, terrorist threats, etc.

And setting the stage for psyiops programs, measuring the reponses and noting the effects, so they can adjust the scale to get what they want...goes back to stimuli/response.

If the drones are a gov't known thing, then they are collecting and analyzing the data, including media compliance, and it all goes to baseline info, and that is where you want toget to knlw the table of elements, eh?

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Old November 3, 2025, 01:17 PM
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Default "The Book the CIA Copied Word for Word, Then Tried To Erase..."

I watched this video about how social media rewires your brain, to change your identity...

Then I noticed, the guy being interviewed was Chase Hughes... and that we had discussed him before!

Truly scary stuff... but it's vital information I think we all need to know about in the modern world... at least, anyone with an internet connection...

It really helps to explain how we got ourselves in the mess we're in...

The Book the CIA Copied Word for Word, Then Tried To Erase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDI-un8WGo

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Dien, he is the modern Edward Bernays. My current interest is institutional psyops, especially gov't/ big biz...but some useful context for small biz too...

In old mailorder (remote direct marketing), we looked for buyers of things, frequent and recent buyers were the golden gooses that led to many a fortune...

This is basic behavior, as seen on the Behavioral Table of Elements...was useful then, today it is all about DATA collectors, and now we can go so much deeper into the predicting of behavior, and buying and selling is nothing compared to what covert influence is being conducted. We are not far away from a tipping point to total compliance, about half a generation away.

Because the internet is set up to capture so much personal data, and advanced AI can spit out results in real time...the old mail order lists of buyers seems archaic by today's standards.

Take the drones over NJ, but what is a LEO? Law Enforcement Officer? Well by definition the FBI is, but not the CIA, but Homeland Security gets murky. The drones are collecting data, at rapid speeds casting a wide net over large areas that special police sniffer units can't cover. The black boxes on top of telephone poles are rebroadcasting wifi, bluettooth and cell signals, which are being run through data bases sniffing out (they claim) are the bad guys...like drug dealers, human trafficers, terrorist threats, etc.

And setting the stage for psyiops programs, measuring the reponses and noting the effects, so they can adjust the scale to get what they want...goes back to stimuli/response.

If the drones are a gov't known thing, then they are collecting and analyzing the data, including media compliance, and it all goes to baseline info, and that is where you want toget to knlw the table of elements, eh?

Gj
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Old November 5, 2025, 10:41 AM
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Default The super secret cult shortcut is...

Thanks Dien,

I watched this video and love Chase Hughes. One thing he doesn't cover is:

when you want to apply the technique (confusion, pause, insertion) and then the capture of identity...and here is where the shortcut exists.

Chase says we run on internal scripts, which I refer to as our childhood INDOCTRINATION, and if your post confusion 'anchor' is linked to this then post confusion behavior is easily manipulated. He points out how social media is being used by marketers, who may be learning from the CIA/Scientology handbooks.

Now, if those indoctrinations are coupled with any sort of self image damage, or a skewing of the self image (such as; a good catholic boy obeys his priest without question) then the manipulation is easier and faster.

We see in the video the reference to the MASCULINE boy, and that could translate into why we have so many incels, and why they are attracted to certain political rhetoric which elevates them and puts down women. And the marketers who sell toxic masculinity tie those self images with success, MONEY and POWER are the tools of 'real' man, and once those have been obtained, well, he can do as he pleases even grab them by their .......ies

This is very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing, it is important to know these things if one wants to avoid being manipulated into doing anything they wouldn't do when in Total Conscious Awareness (TCA). The more one dives into this, the more likely will find how accurate we were back 25 years ago and the early days of sowpub revealed a lot of this stuff.

If anyone searches, they will find my ice cream truck technique used AT the malls; CONFUSION followed by pause (possible touch), insertion or redirection. I don't know if Millard applies this technique in his business dealings but I guarantee you he does from the magician's stage.

POWERFUL stuff.

Gordon

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I watched this video about how social media rewires your brain, to change your identity...

Then I noticed, the guy being interviewed was Chase Hughes... and that we had discussed him before!

Truly scary stuff... but it's vital information I think we all need to know about in the modern world... at least, anyone with an internet connection...

It really helps to explain how we got ourselves in the mess we're in...

The Book the CIA Copied Word for Word, Then Tried To Erase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDI-un8WGo

Best wishes!

Dien
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Old November 5, 2025, 05:43 PM
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Default I call this something else

Thanks for the info above.

I think what is called redirection is simply misdirection in the magic world... and yes I did it all the time. However, I found that having to constantly create situations that I could manipulate this way and that way was too time consuming when planning shows and events. It is probable the reason I followed one of my famous friend's advice about doing family and kid shows.

These kid shows were much more fun and paid BETTER than my nightclub work of even my corporate shows! When I switched to these types of shows, even the corporations paid me MORE money. I found my niche.

Now, redirecting someone might not be the same as misdirection, per se because actively moving someone away from what they are doing is not the same as what you, yourself are doing while misdirecting. Ha! Did I confuse a few folks ?

Nowadays, when I want to help someone, I pile on the benefits to them if I help them and show them what continues to happen when I don't assist.
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Old November 7, 2025, 07:10 PM
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Default Chase Hughes has written a Bunch of Cheaper Books

Thanks Gordon,

A little GAME I Play with myself before I buy a New Book.

Thanks to amazon.com

A - I look to see how many THUMBS up

B - I look to see if anybody had Taken Action on at least ONE Idea

C - I check to Find out if anyone has BENEFITTED or Made Extra Moolah
from an idea in the book.

Glenn

P.S. - With that Said.

I did Recognize something Chase Said in a Youtube interview.

An all Word Based Confusion Sentence.

Which My Retired CIA, FBI, Special Forces Soldier
tells me they are finding used By
Billionaires
Drug Cartels
Fraternities
Pimps.

Well - And sold by the Las Vegas Casino Association - After an idea
is Successfully tested on Millions of Guinea Pig - Gamblers.

So.

I am going to Watch a few of his interviews.

Then Look at his books.

GOOD FIND.

But the 180.00 book must be so COMPLEX none of the readers can
Figure out how to APPLY Even One idea.
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Old November 8, 2025, 03:02 PM
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Default The best of all of them...applied.

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I did Recognize something Chase Said in a Youtube interview.

An all Word Based Confusion Sentence.

Which My Retired CIA, FBI, Special Forces Soldier
tells me they are finding used By
Billionaires
Drug Cartels
Fraternities
Pimps.

Well - And sold by the Las Vegas Casino Association - After an idea
is Successfully tested on Millions of Guinea Pig - Gamblers.

So.

I am going to Watch a few of his interviews.

Then Look at his books.

GOOD FIND.

But the 180.00 book must be so COMPLEX none of the readers can
Figure out how to APPLY Even One idea
.

Glenn, you're a rare unicorn who actually does apply behavior changing techniques as a routine parrt of your day. Good thing you chop wood or all that extra food could be a spare tire around your gut.

As for most of us, it is rare that we actually enter a state of Total Conscious Awareness and USE what we know, have learned and studied for decades.

I think it essential, when marketing, when trying to exchange values and have people give you money willingly, happily and instantly...to apply the many behavior controlling methods we do know.

A lot of Chase's work has to do with covert persuasion and "reading" of people as has been used at the highest levels. And like so many of these behavior gurus, you are correct in the fact they deliberately make their work arcane.

But the reality is, it can be quite simple; a big red nose, a lottery ticket, handwriting analysis. And of course, I must acknowledge it is far easier when face to face as opposed to REMOTE methods. But almost all Internet based marketing businesses (not counting brick and mortar) are run remotely.

And for a Direct Response Remote Marketer, an understanding of HOW to apply these 'mysterious' techique, far above a copywriting viewpoint is probably the fastest and easiest way to have cash flowing into your bank account as much as anything else.

My advice for a would be Remote Direct Marketer is: set up intention first, the WHO (customer, client, consumer), the product/service the WHAT, and then figure out the WHERE AND WHEN based on avatar knowledge.

Once INTENTION is clearly identified, then the application of knowledge can be honed to an invisibility beyond perception and the money automatically flows into one's personal bubble of preoccupation.

We could probably make a fortune (as you already do) selling the practical applications of the works of Chase and others who spend lifetimes discovering what makes us all work. Maybe I'll do a report. Wait...WORK?? WERK!!??

Gordon
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Old November 12, 2025, 03:38 PM
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Default French Fry Mystery - How I *Accidentally* Turned a Guys Brain into SCRAMBLED EGGS

Thanks Gordon/Dien,

Appreciate your Help Figuring out what I did - by Accident.

LOCATION -

Fast food Restaurant.

An elderly man and his wife are sitting in a booth WATCHING.

I ordered.

Then Handed out 3 LOTTO tickets to the Cooks.

Got a Free Chocolate Shake.

Nobody won.

Handed out 3 More.

Guy won a buck.
2nd cook won 4 Bucks.

High Fives.
Multiple Fist bumps.

I get a Free Order of Fries.

My Baked potato is Hard as a Rock. Microwaved to DEATH. I ask for another.

NO MORE Already cooked. 45 Minutes.

I said, "Ok. I will wait."

I get a second order of Free Fries - WHILE I WAIT.

I am stuffing Fries in my mouth from 3 Different containers.

Cooks coming out to my Table.

Back and forth.

Old, Bent over guy and wife Leave. I watch out the window. My Truck full of
groceries is next to their Car.

WTF.

The old Guy Empties a Bag full of Fries on The Short Cut Grass. They BOUNCE.

I am AGOG.
Incredulous.
Speechless.

Re-enters car.

Dumps another container of Fries on Grass. They bounce and spread out in a circle.

Back into Car.

Empties a 3rd Container of Fries on the Grass.

Goes back and Does it a Fourth time.

I call one of my Friendly Cooks over. WE WATCH out the Glass Window.

A Seagull Swoops in.

1, 2, 3 Crows land on a nearby Tree.

7 Crows and a Seagull are FEASTING on Fries.

3 ladies come into the Restaurant.

I come over to the cooks behind the counter and say, "There are 7 Crows Eating
your Fries out there now."

One of the ladies Yells at me, "Don't forget Mr Seagull. He is Important."

What the Heck. Everybody is Getting into it.

OK.

I feel like I have entered the TWILIGHT ZONE.

Any ideas on how I Turned this Guys
Brain into Scrambled Eggs?

Thought I would SHARE
what happens when you don't have a Specific Goal
And UNCONSCIOUSLY -

Apply Chase Hughes CONFUSION Technique
Plus
The "Variable Rewards" Method - Vegas Casinos use to Create BERSERK GAMBLING ADDICTION.

WHEW.

Thanks,
Glenn

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Old November 13, 2025, 08:41 PM
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Default The Lady I Wrote the French Fry Story to *SPIT COFFEE ON MYSELF*

Thanks Gordon,

Kathy wrote back.

That she laughed so hard. She Spit coffee everywhere.

Everybody at work asked, "Why are you Laughing."

So her entire Department read my email.

And are waiting for what happens next.

NO PRESSURE.

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