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Old February 16, 2016, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Flint, MI and Saudi Arabia...Water and Oil

Fear not Gordon,

The Global water problem is being solved as I type this post.

I have it on good authority that more freshwater than we can handle is slowly being released.

And there are government agencies around the world trying to stop it.

So, we have to take advantage while we can. This is a limited time offering.

Once it’s gone… It’s GONE!

This release will more than double the amount of fresh water available in the world

Courtesy of…

GLOBAL WARMING

More than half of the world's freshwater is in the form of ice (as in ice caps, ice sheets and glaciers.) And it’s slowly melting away.

The only catch is, we have to collect the water before it reaches the ocean or it won’t be fit to drink either.

Gregg
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Old February 17, 2016, 01:44 PM
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Default I don't see a solution yet....

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The Global water problem is being solved as I type this post.

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Respectively I would submit it is not being solved...

70% of the produce sold in supermarkets here in Canada comes from California where they are irrigating their crops with treated fracking wastewater. The cases involving contamination with E. coli and samanala poisoning are on the rise. And we are all aware that some of this wastewater has been leaked into the acquafiers where people are getting their fresh water from... except for what Nestle hasn't already bought up. They are also buying clean water here in Canada for re-sale from places where it shouldn't be taken.

Of course the problem doesn't stop with contaminated fresh water. Waste treatment plants around the world are adding a lot of toxicity to the oceans and we in turn wind up eating the seafood that has been contaminated but not tested.

An article on Water Encyclopedia claims, "A major public health concern is the safety of seafood as it relates to the chemical pollution of waters used for commercial and recreational fishing and mariculture. Heavy metals (e.g., copper, lead, mercury, and arsenic) can reach high levels inside marine animals, and then be passed along as seafood for humans. A well-known case of human poisoning occurred in Japan, where one industry dumped mercury compounds into Minimata Bay from 1932 to 1968. Methyl mercury that accumulated in fish and other animals was passed along to humans who consumed them. Over 3,000 human victims and an unknown number of animals succumbed to what became known as "Minimata Disease", a devastating illness that affects the central nervous system."

Stefan Morales, co-director of the Wayward School, was a student in the late ’90’s at Acadia University in the Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia. His thesis for his degree was based on biosloids, and since he was living in Nova Scotia at the time, it was also based on biosolid use in this province. He said there are "at least 21 known carcinogens, 30 heavy metals, flame retardants, steroids, hormones and so on, all adding up to around 60,000 chemical substances and pollutants to be found in biosolids." Before this is made into biosolids, it has already gone through the wastewater treatment plant... but they only test for a handful of chemicals after it has been processed.

My interest in this is was the concern of fracking wastewater being mixed into it by N-Viro, down towards Halifax. It gets processed and packaged as grade "A" fertilizer and sold to farmers around the province.

The Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station in New Brunswick has leaked chemicals into the bay a few times, but the authorities claim there hasn’t been any damage done. Still, the DFO (Dept. of Fisheries) has been monitoring the situation for several years since. They claim levels of Caesium, (which would also be in contaminated fish hitting the west coast from Fukushima) is a carcinogenic and attacks soft tissue like your liver, heart, etc....

As well, from all of the pollution we have oceans that are being acidified. Ocean acidification is creating dead spots, even off of Nova Scotia. This makes a lot of the food we eat more susceptible to disease. This is evident from all of the articles we read about declining fish stocks. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service have documented the decline of two types of mussels, and although it offers several causes it says hydrofracking, spills of untreated fracking flowback water, and development of infrastructure associated with natural gas extraction has been one of the main causes.

See this Youtube video for more info: https://youtu.be/0JnKkit5ocI

Here in Canada we are seeing the decline of several types of fish including bass and salmon, so it isn't limited to only shellfish.

I'm not seeing a solution to our global water problem yet. From some of the info I've been reading COP21 might have been a waste of tax dollars sending delegates there. But I have hope for future generations and there are some bright young people coming along with innovative solutions to combat the environmental mess we're leaving for them. If there really is a supreme being that looks after us... please bless these young people.

Regards,
Steve

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Old February 19, 2016, 10:36 AM
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You’re correct Steve. There isn’t a solution yet. I previously thought the whole water contamination in Flint MI was about trying to save money. That they were just switching sources from Lake Huron to the Flint River. Then, I read that Flint spent over $800,000 to put the water plant BACK IN SERVICE. AND there was only one company to bid on the job to rehab the water plant. AND the people who were supposed to run the plant hadn’t been adequately trained. AND Detroit offered to continue to provide water until their new pipeline was complete making the plant rehab totally unnecessary.

I thought this move was to try to save the poverty ridden city from high water rates. Then I read that residents of Flint, MI have the SECOND HIGHEST WATER RATES IN THE COUNTRY. It seems more like either petty rivalry going on between Flint and Detroit or lining someone’s pockets.

Regarding the fracking industry, these people continue to assert that there is no evidence that their operation contaminates groundwater or causes earthquakes. They rival the tobacco industry in their denial.

A lake near me, built by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for flood control, submerged over 7000 acres of farmland. The residual insecticides, herbicides and fertilizers contaminated the fish and people were advised to avoid eating scavenger fish, like catfish, for more than a decade.

The news reports I’ve read in the last few months give me the impression that big corporations are dumping chemicals and polluting water like it’s the 1960s.

We need to continue to bring awareness to the global water crisis. In the meantime, people need to make sure the water in their homes is clean and safe.

Gregg
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Old February 19, 2016, 11:25 AM
Steve MacLellan
 
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We need to continue to bring awareness to the global water crisis. In the meantime, people need to make sure the water in their homes is clean and safe.

Gregg
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http://www.enjoybetterwater.com

Agreed! An article in the "New York Times" last week cited Arjen Y. Hoekstra, a professor of water management at the University of Twente in the Netherlands. He claims:
"About four billion people, or two-thirds of the world’s population, face severe water shortages during at least one month every year, far more than was previously thought..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/13/sc...ages.html?_r=3

Here in Canada we are dealing with it as well, and fracking is partly responsible for a large part of it in Western Canada, but there are several other isolated problem areas where the lack of clean water exists. One on going problem right here in my home province of Nova Scotia:
http://www.ecojustice.ca/harrietsfie...a-environment/

As a result of the “rights of nature” provisions in Ecuador’s constitution they have been allowed the 19 billion dollar lawsuit against Chevron. But the US and Canadian citizens don't have the right to clean air, clean water and a clean environment written into our constitution. I think this is something we need.

If we don't work towards a solution, our children and grandchildren may be paying dearly to buy fresh water they can use at home.

Regards,
Steve
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Old February 20, 2016, 10:25 AM
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Default World Water Development Report 2015 by the UN

Don't know if this will be of any use to you in your projects, or perhaps you already have this link. Here is the World Water Development Report 2015 published by the United Nations:
http://www.unwater.org/publications/...l/en/c/281166/
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Old February 21, 2016, 07:15 AM
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Thanks Steve. The report will be very useful.

I came across an article about the USEPA releasing an online mapping tool that provides information on watershed data and potential sources of contamination.

Here's the link:

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/2...r-sources.html

It should give people assurance or cause them alarm when they find out what's going on with their water supply.

Gregg
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Old February 21, 2016, 10:29 AM
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Thanks Steve. The report will be very useful.

I came across an article about the USEPA releasing an online mapping tool that provides information on watershed data and potential sources of contamination.

Here's the link:

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/2...r-sources.html

It should give people assurance or cause them alarm when they find out what's going on with their water supply.

Gregg
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http://www.enjoybetterwater.com


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-in...-idUSKCN0VU07W

Our future? Troops deployed over water?

GJA
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Old February 21, 2016, 07:13 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-in...-idUSKCN0VU07W

Our future? Troops deployed over water?

GJA

http://www.delhidailynews.com/news/B...ts-1456078511/

It will be a Tsunami of a story before it gets resolved.
Resolved?

Depends on ________.

GJA
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Old February 25, 2016, 10:16 PM
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Default Your worst nightmare if you think your water is contaminated...

A FRAUD selling water filters to a scared and unsuspecting public.

Here is an article by an undercover reporter calling three different water treatment companies in Florida that had FREE water test offers. Only one out of the three was actually honest.

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/inves...ners/80849526/

The number one thing to remember: Avoid “free” home water tests

Test it yourself. Buy a simple home test kit online or at your local Lowe’s or Home Depot. Or you can get a test kit to send your water samples to a certified lab.

There is no reason to scare or scam people with false claims and snake oil salesmanship.

The truth is bad enough.

The easiest sale I ever made was over a casual conversation with my neighbor. I told her about how heavy rains in the spring can cause Atrazine to be washed into the Missouri river. The very next day a home water treatment van was parked in her driveway.

The thing is, I wasn't trying to sell anything. I was just talking.

Gregg
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Old March 8, 2016, 08:44 AM
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Default What is the role of a "water district"?

These "districts" are Gov't funded, yes? And what is their role?

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A FRAUD selling water filters to a scared and unsuspecting public.

Here is an article by an undercover reporter calling three different water treatment companies in Florida that had FREE water test offers. Only one out of the three was actually honest.

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/inves...ners/80849526/

The number one thing to remember: Avoid “free” home water tests

Test it yourself. Buy a simple home test kit online or at your local Lowe’s or Home Depot. Or you can get a test kit to send your water samples to a certified lab.

There is no reason to scare or scam people with false claims and snake oil salesmanship.

The truth is bad enough.

The easiest sale I ever made was over a casual conversation with my neighbor. I told her about how heavy rains in the spring can cause Atrazine to be washed into the Missouri river. The very next day a home water treatment van was parked in her driveway.

The thing is, I wasn't trying to sell anything. I was just talking.

Gregg
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http://www.enjoybetterwater.com
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