My story of Chattel......

Sorry Jason, We are just offering Don's Midas report along with reports and photos of what we have done. You can get mug samples from Woody and you can make up your own pizza boxes. Just hire a graphic artist to help you. Your augrument about labour being too expensive doesn't make sense to me. Its all about saving time and leveraging your efforts by having others do the labour but hey you already know everything you need so roll up your shirt sleeves and go to work.

Cheers,
Steve

Originally Posted by SteveSki

Your augrument about labour being too expensive doesn't make sense to me. Its all about saving time and leveraging your efforts by having others do the labour but hey you already know everything you need so roll up your shirt sleeves and go to work.

Cheers,
Steve

I agree about leveraging your efforts by having others do your labor.
What I was trying to state, as I said in my original post, was it would be to costly to pay someone to stick these on a pizza box for you.
What did you mean by " Wallpapered"?
Were you talking about a photoshop action or manually sticking these things on a pizza box.
If it is a photoshop action to sell your report, I understand.
If you are to spend your time sticking thousands of these to thousands of pizza boxes, I don't get it and this would be what I would not be interested in doing or even paying someone to do.


Another thing, after checking my math, I see that my original post is flawed.
My gramps spent .50 cents on the can in the story, not .25 cents like stated.

With that said, your stating you and your wifee are enjoying 10,000% profits is obsured and misleading.
It could also be said that my gramps made "infinite%" in profit as he also has sold somethings he has aquired for free at a sale he was attending to get something else specific.
It could be true that you and the wifee are getting 10,000% if you yourself got the blank boxes for free, however I am willing to guess that that is not the case.
The next question is.....
If the real estate on a pizza box is so valuable ( which I believe it is), and you can convince 14 local businesses that it is, how do you convince a savy pizza shop owner to turn over all of that space to you simply for $.50/ box?
The display image that you show doesn't even aknowledge the pizza shop!
This is nuts... ....
If I were an owner of a pizza shop and have invested $50,000 - $250,000 in its success, I most certainly would not "hand over" such valuable real estate for a few pennies!


BTW the reason I asked you to purchase your stuff was only to help you as well as me, as joint venture, if you will. I noticed whomever is printing ( or placing printed cards) on your mugs doesn't offer quality sublimation printing and I could set you up with a quality printer that offers sublimation here in the US that will offer you a quality mug that the colors match and guarantee that the ads are not crooked.
If you would like to continue this JV opportunity further, please contact me via email or PM here at the forum
Jason

Jason you just don’t get it and something tells me you never will.
I have no interest in taking you on as a partner. My wife and I don’t
need a third party telling us how they wouldn’t do things our way.
Thanks but no thanks.

Steve

here in misisisisisisisiiiisisppi....

owner has the boxes.....I offered to sell ads on a separate page that would cover the box...

we split the profits on the sales minus my daily fee...of 200.

had possible 22 ads at 200 for 5000 boxes...4400 gross...

copies are PRINTED..not Kinko-ed....for 5 cents each...

employees put the ad page on the box with a post it note...

so........

no boxes to buy.....sell ads to the friends of the pizza owner...
employees place the ads....we split the profits...

tokk 3 days at 200..(600)...250 for the printing....

4400 minus the 850....3550 divided by 2....1775....each...

he would have to sell over 600 pizzas to make the same profit...on those give away 5 dollar pizzas....using a gross profit of 3 per ....loved it...



now...

we are having a FAIR in the city ..I have been asleep at the wheel...having over 500K people go through the gates with NO coupon book or any marketing materials...

anyone ever done anything with this kind of crowd?

http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/ba...adol-campaign/


these are really cool....

wonder how muchthey charge the client for these ?

"tokk 3 days at 200..(600)"

Bob, are the three days for selling, and then creating the file for the printer? If so, it seems kinda open-ended from the shop owner's perspective.
Did you have a previous relationship with this pizza shop owner?

Jerry

matter of fact, it is a national franchise...

the ONLY exposure that I am uneasy about is the store's employees NOT including the flyer/ads on the boxes...




dont understand the open ended part....we ended up with 20 ads as business cards....and 2 banner ads....

printer scanned the cards, and printed ....

hope that explains it...

the shop owner has people that

cut his grass
fix his car
work at this home
sell him insurance
florist
car parts
windshield repairs
golf course
sports shop
local convenience store
apartment complex
video store
gym
real estate
2 churches
day care
chiropractor
dentist
one martial arts guy
home builder/ I buy houses buy
auto dealer and 24 hour medical clinic

not all were the owners referrals, some were referrals' referrals.

still could have an attorney liquor store beauty shop ...all kinds of categories ....I do what Skip said...use the different classes in the yellow pages/....

now, I am worried about the distribution....will have to order a pizza myself and check it out ...

thinking this could be expanded into a 'sectional' best of the best directories and have 50 or 60 listings....

weak point here is still the distribution...and only way to avoid that is to buy the boxes myself....printed....and then the ads get thrown out with the empty box....

hope this helps...

bob

Bob the open-ended part refers to what you get in daily fees. It isn't ethical of course, but you could have made another $200 by dragging your feet during the implementation. Or maybe I am misunderstanding.

well...

i guess so ...

but primarily worked the phone for contacts..from the store ...so caller id was the pizza addy ...

and then ......just did a DON on em...."drop by for a quick minute...show you can have dinner with 5k prospects for a nickle apiece..."

anyway

gonna give it some time and see what happens...

if you want to be on your thinking hat, give me something to do with the 500k people that will be here for the fair the next week....

thanks

Offer the fair to be a roaming photog.
Have a few people go around the fair and shoot kids on rides and playing games. Have them report back to you every hour to "dump photos on a puter) You add border then print and display for sale to fair goers.

If you want an example, shot me an email to (cndle4 at yahoo dot com)

Another thing I see every year at my state fair (Wisconsin)
Is a coupon sheet for to the various vendors at the fair. The sheet costs $1 and it also affers $1 off addmission to the fair making it "free" to the buyer of the coupon SHEET.
You get the idea. It may be to late this year for this one but, think about it next year.
Make each sheet generate $2 in ads.
Pay back the fair admission to the gate pay your "flyer pimps" 50 cents and you keep 50 cents from each sheet less printing.

If you set this up and only 25,000 people buy your ad sheet, you make $12,500 Less printing.


Hope these are a couple of Ideas that will help you out
Jason